Drake Lewis's MindScan journey began at 19, at a time marked by upheaval and a deep sense of being lost. A decade later, a reconnection with the MindScan™ Assessment and the guidance of ProAdvisorCoach Josh Greco helped Drake find the clarity he needed to navigate his path and bring a greater focus to his life.
MINDSCAN PROFILE INTERVIEW: DRAKE LEWIS
Tell us a bit about where you were in your life when you first took the ProAdvisor MindScan™ Assessment.
Just a little backstory… My parents split when I was 10, and things got pretty rough after that. My dad came back into the picture about five months later, but I really only saw hime every other weekend. I was being bullied in school, and generally just unhappy with life.
When I was 15, I moved in with my dad and stepmom, who had just moved back to Charleston. That first semester of 10th grade was super awesome. It was completely different from anything I had experienced in life until then—I made friends, I wasn't bullied. It was crazy, I loved it! But they couldn't keep their stuff together, and they had to leave. Instead of moving to Kentucky with them, I moved back in with my mother, and I was unhappy, to say the least, with school and life.
When I was 16, I dropped out of high school was on my own for a couple of years. Then, I ended up moving back in with my mom, probably about six or seven months before I took that first MindScan when I was 19 years old.
I was very troubled. A lot of substance abuse, just kind of… doing nothing. I didn't have any direction of where I was going or what I wanted to do. I was attempting college, but it didn't really pan out.
Did you end up finishing high school or getting your GED?
I got my GED. Yes, I actually did get my GED. Yeah.
You mentioned attempting college. Were you pursuing a particular degree, or just taking classes to figure things out?
I had started a radiology tech program. Honestly, just because my mom had said, "Oh, that's a great field," and I was like, "Okay, sure, it sounds good, just as good as any." I wasn't interested in it at all. I didn't really… I just… I didn't even start the program. I was just taking classes to get ready for the program, but it didn't really pan out. I only went for about a year, if that.
How did you come to take the MindScan in the first place?
This was March 12th of 2015. I was out of school at this point. I was not in school anymore. It was actually probably pretty soon after I stopped going to college that I took this. My mom had just started dating Rich (Campe) and they weren’t married yet. My father, wasn't really around after age 10, so Rich kind of really tried to do that role. I wasn't very open to it.
He was just like, "Hey, we have this MindScan, that we do with as our company. I'd really love to see yours. It would be really interesting. I'd love to see what your results are, you know, see how you think." And so I was like, "All right, yeah, sure, I'll take it."
When I first took the MindScan, I didn't really understand at the time. I understand it now, what it was saying. But now, understanding the MindScan better, this is definitely very accurate of how my mind was at the time.
Looking at that first MindScan now, what did it tell you about yourself at that time?
I did have a pretty decent clarity of the external world at that time. I'd been around the block, you know, I'd always been adaptive. I could see things pretty well. So that does make sense. Even at 19, I feel like I had those clarities. And that's in all three dimensions: thinking, practically, empathizing, structured thinking from an external standpoint—how I'm relating to others and how those systems outside of me relate to me.
For my internal view, the understanding of my own self, I feel that was even more accurate. Oh, my gosh, I didn't know anything about what was going on in my head, why I felt the way I felt, why I wanted to do the things I wanted to do, why I always struggled so hard, why I was so unhappy all the time, why I was in so much pain all the time. I had no understanding of that whatsoever. And this is reflected very clearly there.
The MindScan™ Assessment Summary above from March 2015, shows Drake’s excellent understanding of the outside world and how he sees it (the larger the dot, the greater the clarity), but also shows the lack of clarity around his disregard for himself (the smaller the dot, the greater the confusion).
Did Rich walk you through the results of that first MindScan?
Oh, yeah, he did. He's like, "Wow! You actually have a very good clarity and understanding of the world around you, especially for your age."
The way he explained it to me was, 95% of people see the external world clearer than the internal world. He also said, "You’re also in a phase of searching. You're in a phase of just trying to understand yourself." That's the way he put it to me. He wasn't going to make me feel like crap about it. This wasn't just searching; this was a very confused and hurt person.
Did you do anything with that information 10 years ago?
Honestly, I didn't. I mean he had suggestions. He was dating my mother, and they're married now. Obviously, he wanted to try and help me. I was just completely unopen to it. I was 19. I just didn't want to hear it. I was like, “Yeah, oh-okay, cool, thanks, whatever. I just didn't understand this tool, how accurate it is, and how impactful it can be. I didn't give it the credibility that it deserved. I just didn't know.
You took a new MindScan a month ago. Had you already been working with Coach Josh Greco when you did this new one?
I have been working with Josh since September. Yes, he did take a new MindScan. I'm so sorry, I forgot that I had. So I have three MindScans.
So, tell us about what happened between 10 years ago and your first MindScan with Josh. What do you think changed for you over those 10 years to shift that MindScan?
The clarities. I was 29 when I took that MindScan. I think most would agree they have more clarity on who they are and what they want at 29 than they did at 19. But I had just separated from my wife. We’re back together now, but it’s funny… my clarities on the external world seemed to actually go down a little bit from the one when I was 19, except for empathy. Empathy went up. The clarity, the bias the same.
While the MindScan™ Assessment Summary above from March 2024 shows a bit less clarity around External Structured Thinking, it also shows a much greater clarity and focus around self, with Internal World Empathy and Structured Thinking being in overall more positive places than 10 years before.
When you started working with Coach Josh, what was that early process like?
The first meeting was about getting familiar with coaching. He asked me what I wanted to get from it. I told him, “I want more self-discipline. I want more contentment. I want to be a better father in the areas that I can improve.” Those kinds of things. One comment I won't forget, he said, “You want very intrinsic things,” which is rare. It's not that people don't generally want those things, but he said that it's rare that those are the first that come up as opposed to the intrinsic wants. He works with a lot of people, and most of the time their answer to “What do you want to get from coaching?” is “I want a bigger house. I want to make more money. I want a promotion. I want these extrinsic things.” That's the kind of things he normally comes across.
The first six or so coaching sessions were all about getting "under the waterline." We'd go through a process of deep breathing, getting present, you know, clearing the mind. I'd come in feeling a certain way, and we'd dig into it, like, "When's the first time you felt that?" Most of the time, it was a moment from when I was a kid, call it a projection of fear, or shame, or anger, whatever it was, and then we'd just work through it. The first six or seven sessions we did was just that—just like looking back at past, you know, traumas and past feelings, and and just working through them. It was very, very powerful.
After those initial sessions, what did you and Coach Josh start to work on?
We started working on just keeping things together and clear—narrowing down my goals, what I wanted to accomplish, certain avenues, things I was struggling with, with work, and how maybe I could deal with other people. The big transition was, I just started working in more of a corporate environment. That was a complete shift. I'd done restaurants and factories. So, a lot of help with that. Adjusting to that, and things that could help me do better in this kind of work environment.
Did you develop some specific tactics or things you were working towards?
Yeah. One thing I've been doing for quite some time was is a gratitude list—a gratitude list in the morning, and then at night, writing down what I wanted to accomplish the next day. That was a big one that helped me a lot.
A big one, too, was taking time for myself. Because, you know, I was getting all consumed with everything I needed to do all the time. And he said, "You need to make sure you take time to pay homage to you, and pay homage to your body." To this day, every hour, two hours, it depends, if I'm feeling a little overwhelmed or feel whatever, I'll stop, and then I check my body, like, "How am I feeling? What's going on?" Just checking in with my body, because people just disregard their bodies all the time and just go, go, go.
Plan out my days, and show gratitude, and shine more light on what's good in my life, as opposed to what I want to change or what's wrong.
Looking at your most recent MindScan from a month ago, what do you feel has improved since working with Coach Josh over the last several months?
For myself, I mean, just like I said, just making sure to have check-ins with myself, just having to. That's a big one that I've carried every day. Just being able to do that and pay attention to it, because most people don't pay attention to it. Most people don't even think about it. Things have improved. Just my anxiety. A big, like, you know, my, just my worrying about what other people think, or letting people down. A lot of that has gotten way, way better.
Because I used to get a lot of anxiety, like, you know, if I don't respond, you know, because there's a problem. I wasn't getting as much done on my projects because everyone would need this, need that, need this, need that. And I would have to jump on it, go on it. I'd think, "Well, what if they get upset? They're going to let me down, or I'm going to let them down." And he's like, "Well, no, that's not how that, you know. You've got to look at you, and you've got to take care." And so that reframing of like, you know, "No one's going to... you've got to take care of yourself first. No one's going to hate you for taking time to get back to like," you know, I still have a lot less anxiety over just everything—over what people think or how fast I get to it. It's just much easier to go day to day and prioritize and do without a million people tugging at me at once.
So what does this newest MindScan tell you about where your thinking is and where you are now?
Well, let's see here. I still am pretty high on people. I care a lot about people. As opposed to a thinker or doer, I’m definitely a relator. But I also am
My "doer" is a lot closer, though, and a lot clearer than it was before, too. So my action is very, you know, I'm very "go, do, do."
My structured thinking has better clarity. I see processes much clearer. I try to find the ways to take action and make things work and be there for people. I don't disregard the rules, but I just see how I can make things work. I don't have to have a specific process or a specific way to go do something. I just need to make it happen.
The MindScan™ Assessment Summary above from April 2025 shows the shifts from the time Drake has spent working with ProAdvisorCoch Coach Josh Greco, particularly a greater focus on External Practical Thinking, and greater clarity around the way he relates to External Structured Thinking.
So that high bias on internal structured thinking tells you you might not always adhere to somebody else's system.
I think that describes it perfectly, actually.
I'm just still trying to find my sweet spots. I'm very open to what those could be.
So what advice or insight would you offer somebody who is like you from 10 years ago? What advice would you give them?
You need to love yourself, and you're important. And you're good just the way you are, and you can do anything. I mean as cliché as it sounds, that really is what I would tell somebody, because I hated myself. I hated myself.
And how has the MindScan been a part of that?
It's very inspiring to me when I look at the one from 10 years ago and the one from a month ago. It makes me happy. It tells me what I need to work on. It tells me where I need to go or not, what's going on, and it helps also helps me leverage my strengths. The MindScan is really good for helping to find where your niche is and where you can use leverage versus effort.
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